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Questions arising from a talk to Kingston University: UKHO and politicians

I gave a talk on Wednesday to some students at Kingston University as part of their course on “Contemporary Issues in GIS”. They’ve got quite a speaker list – next week it’s Ed Parsons (ex-Ordnance Survey, now Google) and in June they’ve got Vanessa Lawrence OBE, chief executive of Ordnance Survey. Previous to me they had heard from Surrey Satellites (which is interested, of course, in the possibility of Galileo getting the go-ahead). Big Wave : Porthcurno(photo from Flickr by wurz)

Anyhow, the video of the talk may be available at some time in the future. But for now, there were two questions that came up, one hard, one easy, which I thought summed up the present position.

The hard question: if you make UK Hydrographic Office’s marine data free, won’t you get all the foreign organisations who used to pay for those charts taking a free ride, at the expense of the UK taxpayer?

(A part-answer I didn’t think of at the time is that we’re only talking about making the electronic data free; paper charts would still be charged for, at cost.)

Which raises a question I don’t know the answer to: what proportion of UKHO’s revenues comes from sales of its data to overseas organisations? And what proportion of the mapping it does is of waters outside UK territorial waters?

The easy question: what’s the main obstacle to moving to a free data model? Simple – politics. There isn’t the political will there at the moment, and everyone’s reluctant to be the one who might subsequently be regarded as the person who broke this nice system.

Except that didn’t exactly hold anyone back over railway privatisation or the poll tax, nor even the privatisation of Qinetiq, did it?

One Response to “Questions arising from a talk to Kingston University: UKHO and politicians”

  1. Free Our Data: the blog » Blog Archive » Trading Funds report: final totals: economy +£179m, gov’t -15.4m Says:

    [...] (The UKHO is unlike the other trading funds, as the report points out, because it takes in raw data from outside organisations, which it may not be allowed to make available royalty- or payment-free. Which goes some way to explaining the answer to the question I was asked earlier.) The following posts may be related…(the database guesses): Trading Funds report first glance: economists, start here (12 March 2008; score: 41.8%)Trading Funds report will be released with the budget… and… (11 March 2008; score: 37.88%)Trading Funds report: is PSI the new electricity and roads? (14 March 2008; score: 37.62%)Ignore the Budget – get the trading funds report (12 March 2008; score: 34.99%)Catching up: government responds to OFT and Power of Information reports (5 July 2007; score: 31.02%) [...]

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